Joe Rogan and Anna Paulina Luna Dive into UFOs: A Congressional Insider’s Revelations
On August 13, 2025, U.S. Representative Anna Paulina Luna joined Joe Rogan on The Joe Rogan Experience (#2365) for a wide-ranging discussion that zeroed in on one of the most captivating topics of our time: unidentified aerial phenomena (UAPs, formerly UFOs).
Luna, a Florida Republican and chair of the House Task Force on the Declassification of Federal Secrets, shared her personal encounter with a UAP during her Air Force service and dropped bombshell claims about classified evidence of non-human technology. The conversation, which has sparked heated debate online, highlights the growing push for government transparency on UAPs while raising questions about the implications of such disclosures.
The Encounter: Luna’s Air Force Experience
Luna, a former airfield management specialist at Portland Air National Guard Base, recounted a striking incident from her military service. She described an “airspace incursion” involving an unidentified object that outperformed U.S. aircraft. When she pressed pilots for details, they were evasive, citing concerns about losing flight status.
One pilot, visibly shaken, hinted that the object was unidentifiable and moved in ways that defied conventional technology. Luna told Rogan, “No one really wanted to address it, and so from what I gathered, that had likely been a UAP.” She emphasized her grounded perspective, shaped by her military training, which led her to rule out conventional explanations like drones or foreign aircraft.
This firsthand account, from a sitting congresswoman with a military background, lends weight to the growing body of credible UAP reports.
Classified Evidence and Interdimensional Beings
The conversation took a bold turn when Luna discussed her access to classified materials as a member of the House Oversight Committee. She claimed to have viewed photographs in a Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility (SCIF) of aircraft she believes were “not created by mankind.” These images, she asserted, depict technology that surpasses known human capabilities, potentially involving “interdimensional beings” that operate “outside of time and space.”
While Luna acknowledged the vagueness of such terms, she cited credible witness testimonies describing movements that challenge our understanding of physics. “Have I seen a portal open? No. Have I seen a spaceship personally? No. Have I seen evidence of this? Yes,” she told Rogan, emphasizing the need for transparency without violating classification protocols.
Luna’s reference to “interdimensional” phenomena echoes theories proposed by ufologists like Jacques Vallée, suggesting UAPs may not solely be extraterrestrial but could involve dimensions beyond our current scientific framework. She connected these ideas to ancient texts like the Book of Enoch, which describes otherworldly beings, hinting at historical parallels to modern UAP sightings.
This blend of spirituality and science captivated Rogan, who pressed her on whether the objects could be advanced foreign technology. Luna countered that the pilots’ reactions and the objects’ performance suggested otherwise.
The Eglin Air Force Base Standoff
A particularly dramatic moment came when Luna detailed a 2023 visit to Eglin Air Force Base in Florida, alongside Representatives Matt Gaetz and Tim Burchett. The trio sought to investigate UAP reports from pilots who alleged the Air Force was suppressing information. Luna described a tense standoff where the base commander denied them access to pilots and data, even within a SCIF.
The commander reportedly left abruptly, later said to be “authorized to go on leave to Georgia.” Luna noted that one pilot eventually briefed them, and Gaetz later hinted that what they saw didn’t appear human-made. This incident underscores Luna’s broader point: even elected officials face barriers accessing UAP-related information, raising concerns about oversight and accountability.
The Push for Transparency
As chair of the Declassification Task Force, Luna is at the forefront of efforts to declassify UAP-related information. She criticized the Pentagon and intelligence agencies for stonewalling Congress, citing instances where military commanders denied lawmakers access to briefings. Luna argued that over-classification and stigma—particularly the fear of career damage for pilots reporting UAPs—hinder public trust.
She referenced a 2023 House Oversight hearing where whistleblowers, including former military personnel, claimed the government possesses non-human technology. Luna’s task force aims to release sanitized data, such as sensor records or pilot testimonies, to balance national security with public disclosure.
Her appearance on Rogan’s podcast aligns with a broader cultural shift. A September 2024 YouGov poll found 53% of Americans believe aliens probably or definitely exist, reflecting public curiosity. Luna’s claims, paired with her congressional role, amplify calls for transparency at a time when the Pentagon’s All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) insists it has found no evidence of extraterrestrial activity.